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Hello everyone!
I hope all of you are safe and healthy.
I am posting this message if anyone suggest me inisghtful literature of prilling bucket design and optimization.
Looking forward to a comment soon.
Thank you

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Haider Ali Engineer
Process Engineer, Business Development
Fatima Group
Lahore
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Original Message:
Sent: 9/17/2020 1:09:00 AM
From: Haider Ali
Subject: Prilling bucket

Hello everyone!
I hope all of you are safe and healthy.
I am posting this message if anyone suggest me inisghtful literature of prilling bucket design and optimization.
Looking forward to a comment soon.
Thank you

------------------------------
Haider Ali Engineer
Process Engineer, Business Development
Fatima Group
Lahore
------------------------------

Haider,
Dr. Khan is absolutely right. If you are trouble shooting an existing unit, you will have to provide lot of operating data and current design details.
I had told you that you will need data on the melting point, viscosity, surface tension,
etc. besides the atomizer design, pressure at the atomizer head. The atomizer used here is for melts unlike those for spray dryers, etc. Did you check what I gave you on WhatsApp on 17th ? If not I repeat the references below:
SHEARON, W. H. and DUNWOODY, W. B.: Ind. Eng. Chem. 45 (1953) 496–504. Ammonium nitrate
NUNELLY, L. M. and CARTNEY, F. T.: Ind. Eng. Chem. Prod. Res. Dev. 21 (1982) 617–620. Granulation
of urea by the falling-curtain process.
Further, please check in Perry & Kirk-Othmer. Your Univ. should have a subscription for Kirk-Othmer (it is expensive by our sub-continent standards). I have access as a contributor but I can share (my Chapters) only with academics.

------------------------------
Vishwas Pangarkar PhD
Retired Professor of Chemical Engineering, University of Mumbai, India.
Currently: Independent Chemical Engineering Academic/Professional.
Nasik-422013, India.
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 09-17-2020 01:09
From: Haider Ali
Subject: Prilling bucket

Hello everyone!
I hope all of you are safe and healthy.
I am posting this message if anyone suggest me inisghtful literature of prilling bucket design and optimization.
Looking forward to a comment soon.
Thank you

------------------------------
Haider Ali Engineer
Process Engineer, Business Development
Fatima Group
Lahore
------------------------------

Prill bucket design is complicated. I have experience in urea plants and tried various buckets earlier. Even if it is designed, it may not be successful in first time. It may lead to problems like high temperature, improper distribution, rpm control  etc. We have worked with bucket various manufacturers like Tuttle and Simco. We have done trials practically in the prill tower and improved the design after necessary trails and got best results.

Rama

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Rama Raghava Kumar Kotti
Head Plant Operations
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-19-2020 02:21
From: Vishwas Pangarkar
Subject: Prilling bucket

Haider,
Dr. Khan is absolutely right. If you are trouble shooting an existing unit, you will have to provide lot of operating data and current design details.
I had told you that you will need data on the melting point, viscosity, surface tension,
etc. besides the atomizer design, pressure at the atomizer head. The atomizer used here is for melts unlike those for spray dryers, etc. Did you check what I gave you on WhatsApp on 17th ? If not I repeat the references below:
SHEARON, W. H. and DUNWOODY, W. B.: Ind. Eng. Chem. 45 (1953) 496–504. Ammonium nitrate
NUNELLY, L. M. and CARTNEY, F. T.: Ind. Eng. Chem. Prod. Res. Dev. 21 (1982) 617–620. Granulation
of urea by the falling-curtain process.
Further, please check in Perry & Kirk-Othmer. Your Univ. should have a subscription for Kirk-Othmer (it is expensive by our sub-continent standards). I have access as a contributor but I can share (my Chapters) only with academics.

------------------------------
Vishwas Pangarkar PhD
Retired Professor of Chemical Engineering, University of Mumbai, India.
Currently: Independent Chemical Engineering Academic/Professional.
Nasik-422013, India.

Original Message:
Sent: 09-17-2020 01:09
From: Haider Ali
Subject: Prilling bucket

Hello everyone!
I hope all of you are safe and healthy.
I am posting this message if anyone suggest me inisghtful literature of prilling bucket design and optimization.
Looking forward to a comment soon.
Thank you

------------------------------
Haider Ali Engineer
Process Engineer, Business Development
Fatima Group
Lahore
------------------------------

Dear Kotti Sir,

Can you please share contacts of Tuttle and Simco with me so I can get them on board.

Best Regards,

Haider Ali

Process Engineer | Business Development

Manufacturing Division

Plant Site Mukhtar Garh, Sadiqabad, District Rahim Yar Khan

Cell: +92 (0)324 9490130 |PABX: +92 (0)68 5951000

Fax: +92 (0)68 5786909 | Web: www.fatima-group.com

Nourishing Soils, Enriching Lives

------------------------------
Haider Ali Engineer
Process Engineer, Business Development
Fatima Group
Lahore
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 09-19-2020 02:40
From: Rama Kotti
Subject: Prilling bucket

Prill bucket design is complicated. I have experience in urea plants and tried various buckets earlier. Even if it is designed, it may not be successful in first time. It may lead to problems like high temperature, improper distribution, rpm control  etc. We have worked with bucket various manufacturers like Tuttle and Simco. We have done trials practically in the prill tower and improved the design after necessary trails and got best results.

Rama

------------------------------
Rama Raghava Kumar Kotti
Head Plant Operations

Original Message:
Sent: 09-19-2020 02:21
From: Vishwas Pangarkar
Subject: Prilling bucket

Haider,
Dr. Khan is absolutely right. If you are trouble shooting an existing unit, you will have to provide lot of operating data and current design details.
I had told you that you will need data on the melting point, viscosity, surface tension,
etc. besides the atomizer design, pressure at the atomizer head. The atomizer used here is for melts unlike those for spray dryers, etc. Did you check what I gave you on WhatsApp on 17th ? If not I repeat the references below:
SHEARON, W. H. and DUNWOODY, W. B.: Ind. Eng. Chem. 45 (1953) 496–504. Ammonium nitrate
NUNELLY, L. M. and CARTNEY, F. T.: Ind. Eng. Chem. Prod. Res. Dev. 21 (1982) 617–620. Granulation
of urea by the falling-curtain process.
Further, please check in Perry & Kirk-Othmer. Your Univ. should have a subscription for Kirk-Othmer (it is expensive by our sub-continent standards). I have access as a contributor but I can share (my Chapters) only with academics.

------------------------------
Vishwas Pangarkar PhD
Retired Professor of Chemical Engineering, University of Mumbai, India.
Currently: Independent Chemical Engineering Academic/Professional.
Nasik-422013, India.

Original Message:
Sent: 09-17-2020 01:09
From: Haider Ali
Subject: Prilling bucket

Hello everyone!
I hope all of you are safe and healthy.
I am posting this message if anyone suggest me inisghtful literature of prilling bucket design and optimization.
Looking forward to a comment soon.
Thank you

------------------------------
Haider Ali Engineer
Process Engineer, Business Development
Fatima Group
Lahore
------------------------------

Dear Kotti Sir,

I have got information regarding Tuttle. Please find attached document for your information and necessary action in the future.

Best Regards,

Haider Ali

Process Engineer | Business Development

Manufacturing Division

Plant Site Mukhtar Garh, Sadiqabad, District Rahim Yar Khan

Cell: +92 (0)324 9490130 |PABX: +92 (0)68 5951000

Fax: +92 (0)68 5786909 | Web: www.fatima-group.com

Nourishing Soils, Enriching Lives

------------------------------
Haider Ali Engineer
Process Engineer, Business Development
Fatima Group
Lahore
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 09-19-2020 02:40
From: Rama Kotti
Subject: Prilling bucket

Prill bucket design is complicated. I have experience in urea plants and tried various buckets earlier. Even if it is designed, it may not be successful in first time. It may lead to problems like high temperature, improper distribution, rpm control  etc. We have worked with bucket various manufacturers like Tuttle and Simco. We have done trials practically in the prill tower and improved the design after necessary trails and got best results.

Rama

------------------------------
Rama Raghava Kumar Kotti
Head Plant Operations

Original Message:
Sent: 09-19-2020 02:21
From: Vishwas Pangarkar
Subject: Prilling bucket

Haider,
Dr. Khan is absolutely right. If you are trouble shooting an existing unit, you will have to provide lot of operating data and current design details.
I had told you that you will need data on the melting point, viscosity, surface tension,
etc. besides the atomizer design, pressure at the atomizer head. The atomizer used here is for melts unlike those for spray dryers, etc. Did you check what I gave you on WhatsApp on 17th ? If not I repeat the references below:
SHEARON, W. H. and DUNWOODY, W. B.: Ind. Eng. Chem. 45 (1953) 496–504. Ammonium nitrate
NUNELLY, L. M. and CARTNEY, F. T.: Ind. Eng. Chem. Prod. Res. Dev. 21 (1982) 617–620. Granulation
of urea by the falling-curtain process.
Further, please check in Perry & Kirk-Othmer. Your Univ. should have a subscription for Kirk-Othmer (it is expensive by our sub-continent standards). I have access as a contributor but I can share (my Chapters) only with academics.

------------------------------
Vishwas Pangarkar PhD
Retired Professor of Chemical Engineering, University of Mumbai, India.
Currently: Independent Chemical Engineering Academic/Professional.
Nasik-422013, India.

Original Message:
Sent: 09-17-2020 01:09
From: Haider Ali
Subject: Prilling bucket

Hello everyone!
I hope all of you are safe and healthy.
I am posting this message if anyone suggest me inisghtful literature of prilling bucket design and optimization.
Looking forward to a comment soon.
Thank you

------------------------------
Haider Ali Engineer
Process Engineer, Business Development
Fatima Group
Lahore
------------------------------

Dear Haider Ali,

Please check the attached format for parameters to be monitored. Further note down all plant operating parameters like vacuum pressures, temperatures, number of louvers open, wind direction, wind velocity. Check the prill falling pattern on scraper floor also. Note down the temperature and pressure of steam for melt jacketing line if available. Conduct 2 or 3 trails and discuss with vendor for fine adjustment.

Best wishes,

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[RAMA RAGHAVA KUMAR ] [KOTTI] [Ex. HEAD PLANT OPERATIONS ]
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-14-2020 22:19
From: Haider Ali
Subject: Prilling bucket

Dear Kotti Sir,

I have got information regarding Tuttle. Please find attached document for your information and necessary action in the future.

Best Regards,

Haider Ali

Process Engineer | Business Development

Manufacturing Division

Plant Site Mukhtar Garh, Sadiqabad, District Rahim Yar Khan

Cell: +92 (0)324 9490130 |PABX: +92 (0)68 5951000

Fax: +92 (0)68 5786909 | Web: www.fatima-group.com

Nourishing Soils, Enriching Lives

------------------------------
Haider Ali Engineer
Process Engineer, Business Development
Fatima Group
Lahore

Original Message:
Sent: 09-19-2020 02:40
From: Rama Kotti
Subject: Prilling bucket

Prill bucket design is complicated. I have experience in urea plants and tried various buckets earlier. Even if it is designed, it may not be successful in first time. It may lead to problems like high temperature, improper distribution, rpm control  etc. We have worked with bucket various manufacturers like Tuttle and Simco. We have done trials practically in the prill tower and improved the design after necessary trails and got best results.

Rama

------------------------------
Rama Raghava Kumar Kotti
Head Plant Operations

Original Message:
Sent: 09-19-2020 02:21
From: Vishwas Pangarkar
Subject: Prilling bucket

Haider,
Dr. Khan is absolutely right. If you are trouble shooting an existing unit, you will have to provide lot of operating data and current design details.
I had told you that you will need data on the melting point, viscosity, surface tension,
etc. besides the atomizer design, pressure at the atomizer head. The atomizer used here is for melts unlike those for spray dryers, etc. Did you check what I gave you on WhatsApp on 17th ? If not I repeat the references below:
SHEARON, W. H. and DUNWOODY, W. B.: Ind. Eng. Chem. 45 (1953) 496–504. Ammonium nitrate
NUNELLY, L. M. and CARTNEY, F. T.: Ind. Eng. Chem. Prod. Res. Dev. 21 (1982) 617–620. Granulation
of urea by the falling-curtain process.
Further, please check in Perry & Kirk-Othmer. Your Univ. should have a subscription for Kirk-Othmer (it is expensive by our sub-continent standards). I have access as a contributor but I can share (my Chapters) only with academics.

------------------------------
Vishwas Pangarkar PhD
Retired Professor of Chemical Engineering, University of Mumbai, India.
Currently: Independent Chemical Engineering Academic/Professional.
Nasik-422013, India.

Original Message:
Sent: 09-17-2020 01:09
From: Haider Ali
Subject: Prilling bucket

Hello everyone!
I hope all of you are safe and healthy.
I am posting this message if anyone suggest me inisghtful literature of prilling bucket design and optimization.
Looking forward to a comment soon.
Thank you

------------------------------
Haider Ali Engineer
Process Engineer, Business Development
Fatima Group
Lahore
------------------------------

Haider,
I have received your reply on my personal email. I am glad that you could get Kirk-Othmer and the literature that you want.

------------------------------
Vishwas Pangarkar PhD
Retired Professor of Chemical Engineering, University of Mumbai, India.
Currently: Independent Chemical Engineering Academic/Professional.
Nasik-422013, India.
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 09-17-2020 01:09
From: Haider Ali
Subject: Prilling bucket

Hello everyone!
I hope all of you are safe and healthy.
I am posting this message if anyone suggest me inisghtful literature of prilling bucket design and optimization.
Looking forward to a comment soon.
Thank you

------------------------------
Haider Ali Engineer
Process Engineer, Business Development
Fatima Group
Lahore
------------------------------